INTERACTIONS WITH THE BLOGGER `PETER BAKSA IN RESPONSE TO HIS BLOG ENTITLED “THE ZERO POINT FIELD : HOW THOUGHTS BECOME MATTER“ On Huffingtonpost
(Posted on 3rd August 2011)
The last para of the blog :
“The lowest possible energy of a given system must be greater than the minimum potential of the well — its zero-point energy. This leads us to postulate the collective potential of all particles everywhere with their individual zero-point energies merging into one universal zero point field. The theories and scientific research in this particular area of quantum physics lay the ground work for attempting to explain how the mind/brain/brain waves initiate transactions in the natural; how our thoughts commingle with everything else, and cause matter to manifest in our lives. The more we look at this area, the clearer the God/science connection becomes. If thoughts equal energy and energy equals matter, than thoughts become matter. Observe your thoughts as they will manifest themselves in your life in the natural via the ZPF.“
Regardless of the Turmoil in the world economy and rising probabilities of a double dip recession, Peter Baksa continues to write complex but interesting and extremely thought provoking articles on these intriguing subjects linking our thoughts – to prayers – to quantum entanglement etc via the zero point fields.
Despite some contradictions in our views, I cannot but appreciate his work.
To begin with: “How our thoughts commingle with everything else“
Consider the two words `OUR THOUGHTS`.. it implies `We thought in a specific language`.
But we – and our languages – arrived in this universe just a short time back. The universe is about 14 billion years old. If this period of 14 billion years is considered as 24 hours then we `the human beings` arrived only about 6 seconds back and the languages even later. But Quantum entanglement between particles has been going on for these billions of years notwithstanding the fact that the stalls were empty and there were no observers to collapse the wave functions.
However there is one way it could have been possible, ie if you think as John Wheeler (And I am his fan) thought, that this Universe of ours is `A SELF EXCITED CIRCUIT` . Starting small, it grows (loop of U) and in time gives rise to observer–participancy which in turn imparts `tangible reality` to even the earliest days of the universe.
In order to understand this we must first understand the mechanism of an experiment called the `Delayed choice experiment`
This is a thought experiment conceptualized by John Wheeler. To grasp this, let us go back to the famous `Double slit experiment` with electrons. Consider that a new detector screen is set up somewhere in between the two holes and the last detector screen. Now in accordance with the quantum theory if we decide to turn off this new detector there will be an interference pattern formed in the main detector. On the other hand if we decide to delay our choice of looking, and look only after the electron has passed the two hole screen by activating/or installing the new detector – by means of a fast computer- only at that stage, we find that there is no interference pattern. Actual experiments have in fact been carried out in the Universities of Maryland in US and Munich in Germany to confirm this astounding phenomenon. How does this happen? And what in the world is going on? And what does this mean? This delayed decision seems to have affected how the electron behaved when it was in the process of passing through the hole(s) a tiny fraction of a second(perhaps a billionth of a second)in the past.
Now this idea of the universe as a self excited circuit was conceptualized by Wheeler on the basis that the timescales involved need not be so tiny, and we can imagine a similar experiment on a literally cosmic scale. In the words of John Wheeler: “ we in the here and the now, by observing the photon of the primordial cosmic fireball radiation, have an irretrievable consequence for what we have the right to say about that photon.
(Refer `Some strangeness in the proportion`…. Edited by Harry Woolf ).
Even so, it will make better sense if the word `THOUGHTS` is replaced by the word `MINDS`.
The omnipresent mind ( also called God) – interconnecting all the minds –omnipresent in space as well as time has no problem in collapsing wave functions and causing entanglements.
But no such luck for `THOUGHTS`. Our thoughts contain `Information` and Special relativity prohibits information from travelling at speed faster than speed of light.
And so when we say that a celebrity person called `x` was healed because many people in different parts of the world, prayed for him/her, I doubt if it was a result of `Entanglement`, rather, it could be due to the flow of information – at speed not exceeding that of light – through the media to `x` that the world prayed for his/her health that helped him to recover.
I could be wrong. In fact it can be tested with an experiment. Let me try one in Part 4.
Consider that the Mind carries information and transfers it to another mind by Entanglement.
Consider – and its true – that I am now thinking about John Cramer`s Transactional interpretation of Quantum Mechanics.
Perhaps the mind carries the quantum particles ( in this case information) as a retarded wave going into the future and coming back – after due entanglement and shaking of hands, not to mention the collapsing of wave functions – into the past as an advanced wave, both actions according to the Wheeler Feynman emitter – absorber theory, and each journey at speed of light – thus conforming to special relativity – but positive and negative, hence taking no time at all, and explaining the `collapse of the wave function phenomena`.
Let us see if John Cramer or one of his ardent fans (for I do not know if Cramer is alive) realizes that an entanglement has taken place in his mind, by which he/she has come to know what I am thinking about, in which case he or she is bound to come out with a mind boggling response.
I will be back soon.
Meanwhile warm regards to Peter Baksa.
Peter Baksa :
“Always great to hear your thoughts, Best, Peter“
I am back.
There was no response from Cramer or any of his fans.
Either there was no entanglement of thoughts, or if there was, the requisite information was not registered in the brain cells.
Let me try once more :
This time I am thinking about Rupert Sheldrake and his concept of the phenomena called `Morphic resonance` a subject related to the subject of your research.
Let me see if a response from him is forthcoming.
Will be back soon. Regards
SKSagar ( after a few days):
I am back again.
No response from Rupert Sheldrake either.
What shall we do, Peter?
What about Bell`s inequality?
Can we make use of Quantum entanglement to send messages at speeds faster than light?
No… We cannot.
Because there is a God and he is a Mathematician. With the sleigh of his hands he has played a marvelous trick on us by avoiding real time non local influences. (Refer parts 5 to 8 of my responses to your blog “How does prayer actually work“)
The Conclusion: The subject is enormously complex. At the current level of knowledge it seems impossible to find an equation linking `Thoughts` with `Matter` or `Energy`.
Besides, its dangerous…. Indifferent Scientists (Engineers) will waste no time in developing the technology to trigger a nuclear device – located five thousand miles away – merely by thinking the right thoughts.
Tell me if I am wrong. With warm regards and deep felt appreciation
Peter Baksa :
That is why the key is mass consciousness. We know the world is round now and a few other things. All we have to do is connect the dots and observe the net result. In my research the truths become more clear with each day. Unless you want to win a Pulitzer or other award for bringing a truth to the masses the most important thing is to use the info. to lead the best life possible. To see all situations as an opportunity. Remain open gracious and humble and the world will look differently in that moment.
Yes indeed, there must be mass consciousness. But as individuals our consciousness is always in the singular. We do not know what others are conscious of. But we do realize the distinct possibility of an omnipresent mind – omnipresent both in space and time – capable of mass consciousness. Consider the famous equation from the Indian Upanishads: “Atman = Brahman“
Where this Brahman could be that omnipresent mind. And this is not difficult to imagine when we realize that our own body is made up of trillions and trillions of cells, each one of which is a unit life in itself, and each is aware only of itself, whereas we, despite our singular consciousness, are possessed with the sum total of awareness of all these trillions of cells. In the same way Brahman may have a singular consciousness of the Universe as a whole which consciousness is made up of the sum total of the consciousnesses of the various Atmans.
It is astonishing, how the above said equation was conceived by the ancient Vedantists by intuition alone, at a time when there was no Quantum Physics, no special relativity, no knowledge of quantum entanglement, or wave particle duality etc.
In essence, there is only one mind.
This in my opinion is the ultimate truth we can order our lives on.
If it is understood properly, all the problems of the world, including conflicts between nations, not to mention the conflicts between the rich and the poor can be resolved.